8AM PT, 11AM ET, 16:00 UK, 17:00 CET

APAC xxxxx2021 - 0500h ET / 1530h India

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Attendees

RECORDING 

Goals

  • Assign action items for next meeting
  • Establish work plan for WG deliverables and ensure action items have owners
  • Gather agenda suggestions for next meeting

Agenda Items

TimeItemWhoNotes
5 min

Welcome
Antitrust Policy Notice
Introductions

Chairs


2 mins

Review / Approve minutes from last meeting ()

Chairs
  • Approval: By Consensus
5 mins

Announcements

All
  • Good Health Pass
15 minsProposed new Task Force - Trust Registry Protocol TF - responsible for developing the Trust Registry Protocol spec (below)Drummond Reed
  • Trust Registry spec bubbled out of GHP WG and ToIP TSWG is a logical place to develop this TSS
  • Call for Consensus
5 minsProposed new Draft Deliverable - ToIP Trust Registry Protocol TSS

Drummond Reed

  • Call for Consensus
15 minsTask Force SOS (Scrum of Scrums)TF Leads
5 minsDecision PointsChairs
10 minsOpen Discussion TopicsChairs
10 minsReview Action and Open ItemsChairs

Notes

  • Good Health Pass
  • What's Holding Us Back?
    • Tech depth - folks may not know what they can add to.
    • Biting off more than we can chew - e.g. Layer interleaves are a lot of (unpaid) work, requires depth (capability) and too much work (capacity)
    • Amount of work is causing missed deadlines - too much? too fast?
    • Concisely explain a specific topic - may help others recognize that there are places to contribute.
    • Education of folks is hard - base knowledge needed to start contributing. Blockchain, DIDComm, business use cases, + governance.
  • Get something out ASAP - startup approach for v1.0 being nearly embarassing. 
    • "Big 4" - Laws of Identity, Principles of SSI, 
  • Can we simplify the 4-layer 
    • v1.0 points to an exemplar that is breaking things down 
      • e.g. Layer 1/2 
      • Conceptual:
        • here is what the Layers are...
        • here is what the interconnects are - how the layers interact
        • Here is where we: KNOW, THINK WE KNOW, HAVE A HUNCH, GOT IT WRONG
    • GHP has been a cutting function - 

TSWG Trust Registry TF

  • loose consensus - create TF
  • loose consensus - create Draft Deliverable 
  • loose consensus - 4-Layer Explainer

BIG 4

  • Gov Arch TSS (RFC conversion - gov side)
  • Tech Arch TSS (RFC conversion - tech side)
  • Design Principles ToIP Stack
  • Intro to ToIP whitepaper v2

CLEANUP

  • Take table, clean up (D&D), copy up to TSWG main page.

Announcement Details

  • Reminders
    • Task Force Activities
    • Events
      • Planned: None
    • Education Meetings
      • Planned: None
    • Resources - will be added to the TSWG Resources page:

TSWG APAC Interlock

APAC meetings not happening discretely at this time.

Task Force SOS (Scrum of Scrums)

<TODO: DARRELL clean table up - TF Name and the TF Deliverables>

TF NameMissionMembersStatus
Privacy by DesignSubmit a ToIP Design Principles Deliverable.

Jim St.Clair 

Drummond Reed

John Phillips

Steve McCown

(lead) 

2021-05-31 ACTION DARRELL - find status (git, Google Doc, etc.) to prepare for CLOSEOUT


Laws of IdentitySubmit a ToIP Design Principles Deliverable.

Chris Buchanan (lead) 

Darrell O'Donnell

DRAFT HERE (Google Docs)

2021-05-31 ACTION DARRELL - find status (git, Google Doc, etc.) to prepare for CLOSEOUT

SSI Principles

(DP0031)

Submit community work from Sovrin SUGF TF ad SEGF TF


MOVED to SC for approval - will drop from TF SOS next meeting.

2021-05-31 ACTION DARRELL - find status (git, Google Doc, etc.) to prepare for CLOSEOUT

TSWG 4-Layer Model

Darrell O'Donnell (lead)

<< NEED MORE >>

Top-Down using HL-Aries and HL-Indy (+ other ledgers possibly) as the framework exemplar. The goal is to explain the various 

GOAL: Get something out. EARLY SKELETON DOC

how does this 4-layer support the needs that we see...


Saturn-V TIP Task ForceSubmit a TIP Recommendation  Deliverable.

Dan Gisolfi   (lead) Chris Buchanan

https://github.com/trustoverip/TIP0028-saturn-v/wiki

https://trustoverip.github.io/TIP0028-saturn-v/


CONSIDER - mapping to Aries test harness: https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-agent-test-harness/tree/master/aries-test-harness/features 


TSWG GlossaryCollaborate with CTWG on the process and delivery of a TSWG Glossary. RJ Reiser  (lead) 

Glossary is an ongoing effort. Any updates?

"Big 4" should be referencing and be consistent (use terms, introduce new terms if absolutely required).

Foundational RFC Whitepaper Task Force

(WP0010)

RFC 289 Conversion 

Victor Golubkov (lead) 

Drummond Reed 

Dan Gisolfi 

NEED CLARITY Drummond Reed& Darrell O'Donnell

Layer 1 (2:1) Interop Spec (TSS0011) Submit a ToIP Specification Deliverable 

Dave McKay  (lead) 

Drummond Reed Darrell O'Donnell

Working on a deliverable plan.

Spec outline concepts being discussed. 

Deliverables Repo TSS0011 ready for TF development.

Layer 2 (3:2)  Interop Spec (TSS0012)Submit a ToIP Specification Deliverable

Dave McKay (lead) 

Scott Whitmire

Rob Bartlett

Working on a deliverable plan.

Spec outline concepts being discussed. 

Deliverables Repo TSS0012 ready for TF development.

Layer 3 (4:3) Interop Spec (TSS0013)Submit a ToIP Specification Deliverable

Dave McKay (lead)

Scott Whitmire

Rob Bartlett

Working on a deliverable plan.

Spec outline concepts being discussed. 

Deliverables Repo TSS0013 ready for TF development.

Decentralization Task Force

(DP0005)

Submit a ToIP Recommendation as a Design Principle.

Daniel Bachenheimer  (Cross Foundation TF Representative)


Dependency for Saturn-V proposal. 

DISCUSS AT 14JUN2021 - being handled elsewhere

W3C Rubric

Dan Gisolfito send a call-for-participation to all ToIP WG members to join DP0005 TF.
Daniel Bachenheimerto coordinate with Jessica Townsendon the leadership of this TF which effectively will be an extension of the UFWG TF mission.


Net result: This TWWG work will be captured as a representative of the TSWG in the proposed TF. 

Technology Stack Task Force


Deliver an approved specification RFC 289 Conversion (TSS0002)

_______ (lead - JUMP IN!)

Drummond Reed

Dan Gisolfi

Darrell O'Donnell


NEED CLARITY Drummond Reed (Create Wiki page) & Darrell O'Donnell

Q1 Deliverable - as part of the "Big 4" documents. 

NEED: 

  • Lead
  • Participants

Start with TSS0001 as beginning.

CHALLENGE - Review TSS0001 to get a grounding in what is required here. 

Content will be extracted from current state of WP0010.

Goal here is to adapt Hyperledger Aries RFC289 into a Tech Spec.

ToIP Stack Design Principles Task Force

(DP0034)

Combined Principles doc for the ToIP Stack. Part of "Big 4" deliverables. 

Drummond Reed

Victor Golubkov

See Wiki discussion draft as well as the Big 4 description. Please also see WIP Google Doc.

2021-05-31 works continues - should be getting attention soon

RAISE at next (14JUN2021) meeting Drummond Reed

Decision Points

  • None

Discussion Topics

Action items

  • Drumm & Darrell to clean this page up - goal is to move items OFF or UP (to TSWG page)
  • Define and communicate to ToIP SC our deliverables and process. 
  • Move SOS to Trello Boards for 2021 
    • Migration to Kanban tooling. 
      • Trello Account Setup; Board creation WIP. 
      • Goal is to improve WG reporting (scrum activity) and allow Task Forces to organize and manage activity.
      • Upon completion of KanBan boards: Convert TSWG Bi-monthy Meeting into a Monthly Scrum of Scrums (SOS); Allowing TFs to meet more frequently and to be more focused on actual deliverables than status updates.
  • Sam Smith - Task Force Proposal for a meeting to be scheduled for January. 
    • Verifiable Authorizations: Mapping vCreds spec to authorization semantics. Positioning this concept with respect to other industry activity. 
    • Drummond noted that this thread was ongoing in the GitHub for the W3C Verifiable Credentials Data Model 1.0 spec, and that it was highly relevant to this proposed TF
  • Set Agenda for next meeting

Open Items

Low priority items that failed to gain volunteers to champion cause.

  • Change TSWG Mtg slot.
  • ISO Interlock discussion : ToIP Liaison (Vicky Lemieux) to ISO TC 307 (Emily Dawson Secretariat)
  • Need to establish chair duration and cycle times
  • Possible library - collection of links 


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