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Meeting Date & Time

  •   This Task Force holds TWO meetings weekly every Thursday at the following times (to cover global time zones):
    • NA/EU 07:00-8:00 PT / 14:00-15:00 UTC 
    • APAC 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC

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NA/EU Meeting

APAC Meeting

Main Goals of this Meeting

For the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification: 1) Review additional diagrams proposed by Darrell O'Donnell, 2) Decide about numbering & compiling normative requirements, 3) Review mental model of system types, 4) Next steps for completing the first Public Review Draft.

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
5 minAnnouncementsAllUpdates of general interest to TATF members.
2 minReview of previous action itemsChairs

The notes from the previous meeting (2022-08-03) were not clear about explicit action items.

  • ACTION: Neil Thomson Create a TATF Project Management document to describe details of issue management across Tech Arch Spec and related deliverables
  • ACTION: ALL MEMBERS to continue to review sections 7 through 11 of the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification to add any final comments or suggestions
  • ACTION: Neil Thomson - proposed communication used by EndPoint Systems and Supporting Systems, on-node Support System inter-communication and cross-network interaction within a Support System - see Proposal on Supporting Systems Communication  
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to raise an GitHub on this topic [[DO: WHAT TOPIC??]] as it will require more in-depth discussion that is feasible in Google docs (and because we are now trying to move all new issues to GitHub).
  • ACTION: Neil Thomson update the TATF "design principles" to include "detailing" of Use cases from Tech Arch through test cases.
  • ACTION: Darrell O'Donnell to suggest a replacement for Figure 2 (development progression)
  • ACTION: All to review Jo's model (below) for future discussion

ToIP Technology Architecture Spec Topics

Discussion of progress on the working draft of the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification:

15 minsAdditional diagramsDrummond Reed 

From Darrell O'Donnell in the TSWG Slack channel:

I won’t likely make the Thursday meeting. Business has me messing with too much of the time I am supposed to be spending with friends that flew in from out of town.I suggest reviewing the two slides here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1skHbfJqXaX8er8iUzisNWWnFCMp7bv2ZjKmsq4GXyeA/edit#slide=id.gf9dcc57430_0_4

  • First slide moves Cryptography, Compute, Storage, and Communications under Layer 1 - we aren’t doing ToIP-specific things there - we use them as would any other system.
  • Second slide may fit an appendix (and needs aligning) for telling the story of “How does XXXXXX compare with the ToIP 4-Layer Stack?”

Discussion: First slide could be updated with a vertical side bar that crosses layers for common ToIP support components used by all layers.

10 minsRequirements numbering and appendixDrummond Reed 

The notes of the last meeting indicated discussion of an approach where all normative requirements are numbered throughout the spec and then compiled in a table in an appendix. Darrell O'Donnell and Drummond Reed discussed this when Drummond returned from vacation and before Darrell left on vacation.

PROPOSED DECISION: We will number all normative requirements and compile them into a table in an appendix, including cross-links in both directions.

10 minsMental model of system types

Drummond Reed Jo Spencer 

Drummond was on vacation for the last two meetings but saw the notes from the last meeting including the discussion of the mental model of system types. This appeared helpful but still appears to have some issues. Can we close completely on definitions of:

  • Endpoint Systems
  • Intermediate Systems
  • Supporting Systems
10 minsNext steps on the Working DraftDrummond Reed 

With Darrell O'Donnell and Wenjing Chu both out on vacation this week and next, Drummond proposes to:

  1. Produce another draft of the Google doc incorporating all these action items before next week's meeting (Aug 18).
  2. Review that draft at next week's meeting.
  3. Incorporate any feedback on that draft to produce as clean a draft as possible for the following meeting (Aug 25).
  4. Review that draft with Darrell and Wenjing back.
  5. Move everything to GitHub and prepare the first Public Review Draft to present at the ToIP Summit 2022 on Sept 14.
5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

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