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Main Goals of this Meeting

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TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
    • Mathieu Glaude is the CEO of Northern Block; former co-chair of the Utility Foundry Working Group; now getting more involved with some other WGs.
    • Viky Manaila  is Trust Services Director within the Intesi Group and President of the Cloud Signature Consortium. She is currently very involved with eIDAS 2.0, working with policymakers with the very active evolution of the new regulation. This week she is working on Article 24, Identity and Verification, which will allow the Level of Assurance Medium instead of requiring Level of Assurance Substantial. She is trying to reinstate the Level of Assurance Substantial so that the wallet has more utility. 
5 minGeneral announcementsAllUpdates from TSWG members of general interest to the group.
2 minReview of Action Items from the previous meetingChairs
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed to put the Trust Registry TF charter update on the agenda for the next TRTF meeting (post IIW), and let Jacques Latour know what that date is.
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed will cancel the next meeting on Nov 14. Our next meeting with be November 28 and will include a report on highlights of Internet Identity Workshop.
10 minInternet Identity Workshop #35 highlightsAll
  • Largest in-person IIW ever — ~320 attendees
  • Darrell O'Donnell shared that IIWs five years ago was about new possibilities for the whole space and new inventions, whereas now there was much more refinement rather than invention.
  • Drummond Reed agreed with Darrell that what he saw was an industry maturing.
  • Judith Fleenor saw a lot more collaboration and not as much contention.
  • Mathieu Glaude saw a lot more discussion of governance, which is another sign of the industry maturing.
  • Daniel Bachenheimer saw a lot more in-depth discussion and knowledge of a smaller set of specific approaches and technologies, so it is getting more focused but still with multiple choices.
  • Steve McCown pointed out the intensive discussion of interoperability and how to get deployments to happen. 
  • Darrell O'Donnell: "Deployments will lead to de facto standards being set."
  • Darrell also observed that there was a lot of interest in Timothy Ruff's session about moving away from "SSI" and instead calling it "Web5".
    • Judith said that the point of the session is that the term Web5 helps with better marketing of the space.
    • Darrell understood that, if that's what IIW discussions are focused on, that is not what will actually move the market as much as the technology actually solves real business problems.
    • Steve said that his firm tends to use the term "decentralized identity" in order to avoid any issues around the term "SSI". He said Timothy also avoids the the use of "blockchain" and "distributed ledger".
    • Michael thought this was a good conversation because he liked Stephen Wilson's talk at Identiverse last year. He said the concept of "self-sovereign" is problematic within the DNS world, so he talks about "Trusted Ecosystems & Verified Data".
15 minTask Force ReportsTF Leads


Technology Architecture TFWenjing Chu  Drummond Reed

  • The first public review draft of the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification V1.0 was published on November 14 — see this blog post and two new wiki pages:
  • Reception at IIW was very positive, however it was hard to get much focus due to the sheer volume of IIW topics
  • Mathieu Glaude of Northern Block published this blog post about it
  • Now work begins on the second public review draft

Trust Registry TF — Darrell O'Donnell

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ACDC TF — Samuel Smith Phil Feairheller 

  • A host of different sessions related to ACDC and KERI were held at IIW, including a called CESR for First Year Wizards, whose attendees were blown away by the power of CESR
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AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TFWenjing Chu Vikas Malhotra 

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10 minNext steps for the Technology Architecture Task Force
10 minNext steps for the Trust Registry Task Force

Darrell will report on a planned collaboration with the Decentralized Identity Foundation.

+ structure of TF meetings - TRTF will remove "what's going on" chat sessions.

5 min
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
ChairsProposed holiday meeting schedule: final 2022 meeting Monday Dec 12, first 2023 meeting Monday Jan 9.

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