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Meeting Date & Time

This Task Force meets every Wednesday. There are two meetings to serve different time zones:

  • NA/EU meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC
  • APAC meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC

See the Calendar of ToIP Meetings for exact meeting dates, times and Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

NOTE: These Zoom meeting links will be replaced by links to recordings of the meetings once they are available.

Attendees

NA/EU:

APAC:

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • New member introductions
  • Agenda review
Leads
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
2 minReview of previous action itemsLeads
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed and Wenjing Chu to coordinate with Kevin Griffin to arrange the repo to be ready for the Working Draft.
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed to post an issue to the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification to add the "waist-and-neck" diagram.
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    ACTION: Drummond Reed to check with Darrell O'Donnell about his explorations into X.509 interop.

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    ACTION: Drummond Reed to report back on his lunch with Eric Scouten with a recommendation about a VID Core Specification Task Force.

  •  ACTION: Wenjing Chu will add a section to the Working Draft for a simple multicast protocol.
5 minsX.509 VID Task Force ReportDrummond Reed 

Drummond will report on his lunch with Eric Scouten, Senior Engineering Manager on Adobe's Content Authenticity Initiative, to discuss forming the X.509 VID Task Force.

Also note this event to which Eric is inviting members of the ToIP community: 

CAI Symposium 2023, Thursday 07 December, Stanford University.
10 minsAI Report

This week President Biden issued the Executive Order on Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Artificial Intelligence. It includes this directive:

  • Protect Americans from AI-enabled fraud and deception by establishing standards and best practices for detecting AI-generated content and authenticating official content. The Department of Commerce will develop guidance for content authentication and watermarking to clearly label AI-generated content. Federal agencies will use these tools to make it easy for Americans to know that the communications they receive from their government are authentic—and set an example for the private sector and governments around the world.

Wenjing will provide some perspective as chair of our AI & Metaverse Task Force. He agreed that content authenticity is a critical piece of the puzzle and is the "low hanging fruit" for hooking into what we do. He pointed out that the LF C2PA (Linux Foundation Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity (C2PA.org) project) produces the standards that the Content Authenticity Initiative (CAI) implements. He clarified that there are different approaches to content authenticity for different media types. He recommended that if we have specific ways that the ToIP stack can be applied to providing content authenticity, we should focus on those as there is high demand for working solutions.

He recommends joining the AI & Metaverse Task Force to discuss where we can put ToIP to work on this problem space.

For anyone who has not seen how the CAI logo works, watch this: https://contentcredentials.org/

Kyle Robinson made the point that AI content can still be "authentic". 

Samuel Smith shared https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/31/23940626/artificial-intelligence-ai-digital-watermarks-biden-executive-order and https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.00076.pdf about how easy it is to defeat watermarking content.  The only proof of authenticity that will work is strong digital signatures.

Jim St.Clair said that the Executive Order follows several years of NIST working on AI risk management. So this is rushed out.

Drummond Reed observed that overall, the rapidly growing industry concern about the impact of AI on cybersecurity and cyberfraud is very significantly increasing interest in ToIP and our solutions. So we need to move as quickly as possible to take advantage of this.

35 minsWorking Draft ReviewWenjing Chu 

Trust Spanning Protocol (TSP) - Google Docs

Wenjing will go over new sections on the Routing model. See screenshots #1 thru #__ below.


5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Leads

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Decisions

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Action Items

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