Meeting Date & Time

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    • 09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Meetinghttps://zoom.us/j/98931559152?pwd=d0ZwM1JHQ3d5cXRqVTh4NlRHeVJvQT09

Recording: https://zoom.us/rec/share/2Y-h2tmPVrRtsFQ14QXm-HD5SR5Y0xLGe8oR93iIgdN17Tl8wEEc8XfxfIU3yQ4P.RL_WCduOD1DcwprC

Transcript: https://zoom.us/rec/share/K2ktDr0Orbp8MVflZJ8zs4MVff9bxOMDvsubgQbqTRotsqHBfwhOT15ReKdCys2M.BFVjzBWlDf4NjFW4

Attendees

Wenjing Chu 

@Anita Rao

Steven Milstein 

Neil Thomson 

Savita Farooqui 

@George Tang





Main Goal of this Meeting

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
5 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.
  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page. AI & Metaverse Technology Task Force
15 mins
  • Introduction of new members
  • Any general announcements, news, that could be of interest to the TF
All
  • tbd + Circle news in Money 20/20
  • LFMS news: Wenjing's presentation, Drummond's presentation, ToIP panel: Judith, Drummond, Kyle, Wenjing Wenjing Chu Judith Fleenor Kyle Robinson Drummond Reed 
  • In LFMS this week, a workshop was held on Oct 25 in the definition of open-source license for AI systems. https://bit.ly/OSI-ATO-23?r=qr
  • Zoom's AI Companion. 
  • Review Savita Farooqui screenshot example.
    • We had a discussion on the screenshot below and the AI companion in relation to TOIP. Since TOIP is open anyone can query information from all meetings. It may not apply to other organizations, depending on their policies. It is useful but one should verify. It is beneficial if you know what you are looking for per Steven Milstein . It is a long topic which deserves an hour's discussion. Wenjing Chu . MS Co-pilot is the ultimate that knows everything, calendar, email, chat, and team meetings are the opposite end of the spectrum. Per Steven Milstein . The output transcript needs human cleansing. Savita Farooqui looking at how we could use open-source models. 
30 minUS Copyright Office NoI


All

Final review of RFC response to US Copyright Office. DRAFT: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fz7JzPghIEjPdYpWECHvhnFR6p71Ywn1CptLsxLT6Wo/edit

In the last meeting we agreed to - 

  • Present to IIW next week. 
  • Final review on the next AIM meeting: Oct 26, then submit on behalf of AIM task force before deadline on Oct 30.
  • Since it is not to be published, no comms committee review is necessary. However, we may turn this submission into a BLOG and have it reviewed for publication as a BLOG.
  • We reviewed the final comments for the document in response to the US Copyright Office. Deadline is October 30th. Wenjing Chu sought feedback and the team agreed to submit the document from TOIP. 
10Things & is-a-thing or is-an-AI-thing
  • Nicky Hickman Chi Hwa Tang 
  • Open discussion: Ideas on defining such properties
  • Wenjing Chu : How do you tell the difference between AI and a person? Identify which person. Produce a white paper on a survey.  Steven Milstein For the next generation of AI we should be able to say it is verified and is accurate and authentic. Savita Farooqui needs to respect privacy.  We need to balance the privacy trust. Neil Thomson : We must provide provenance to verify credibility while providing the data set. 
0 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
  • AOB
Chairs

Not addressed in this meeting - future topics

Action items:

  • Wenjing Chu File the RFC to Copyright Office by deadline Oct 30.
  • Wenjing Chu Draft a one page proposal to solicit feedback and gauge interest in a work focused on identity & trust of AI.






Screenshot example of trained AI searching across multiple meetings and providing metadata with its response.

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