Meeting Date & Time

    •  09:00-10:00 PT / 16:00-17:00 UTC 

Zoom Meeting Links / Recordings

Main Goal of this Meeting

This is the AIM TF's #3 meeting.

Our main goal is to introduce the Venn Diagram of our work scope, a Storyline slide deck to facilitate collaboration of Phase 1 deliverable, and an introductory presentation from Wenjing Chu .

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
5 mins
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Agenda review
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws.
  • ToIP Policy: Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • ToIP TSWG IPR Policy: see TF wiki page. AI & Metaverse Technology Task Force
5 mins
  • Introduction of new members
  • New Members: If this is your first meeting, here is a chance to introduce yourself and your interests in the TF.
5 mins
  • Recap of last week's meeting
  • Status update on action items
  • Any general announcement, news, that could be of interest to the TF
Chairs & All
20 mins
  • Venn Diagram illustrating the TF's work scope.
  • What is AI? What is Metaverse? How do they intersect with Trust?
Wenjing Chu 
  • We will cover a Venn Diagram as suggested by Mary.
  • Wenjing Chu will present the slightly revised presentation initially given at the Internet Identity Workshop.

Discussed Venn Diagram and mentioned that blog post has been posted - Announcing Artificial Intelligence & Metaverse Technology Task Force - Trust Over IP

Wenjing Chu presenting his slides for IIW. Presented slide on EU AI Act. AI is a bunch of models. "All models are wrong" - George Box | "the world is its own best model" - Rodney Brooks.... Rather than digitizing the human world for machines, is it better for machines to learn to live in the human world?

Vikas Malhotra This is one example. More need to be thought and discussed by team

Drummond Reed - Scenario is clear

Adrian Doerk - Shall we be discussing how the models are built?

Wenjing Chu - How is the model built? We likely need to look at the provenance of data before it becomes a model.

Adrian Doerk - How is the decision rendered from AI? 

Vikas Malhotra How can a consumer of AI trust AI?

Sumabala Nair - Models exist for explainability.
Vikas Malhotra - How can a consumer easily identify AI wrt trustworthiness

Next meeting - Vikas, Zaida and Wenjing will present their points.

20 mins
  • Storyline Format as a method of collaborating in the Phase1 deliverable (white paper)
Wenjing Chu 
  • How we can use the Storyline format for drafting a white paper as phase1 deliverable Wenjing Chu 
    • All contributions welcome

Wenjing Chu presented the structure of storyline.

Nicky Hickman Good to have as a deliverable guidance but don't make it restrictive for the discussion that new people may bring. Bring outside - in perspective at around 6 month mark.

Drummond Reed Storyline approach is to help a group to agree on a story arc.

Nicky Hickman Suggest asking every member of the group to present one slide on why they are in the group, what they want to achieve, group discussions to define terms, affirmation etc.

Zaïda Rivai - Has added notes in slide 11.

Nicky Hickmanand Drummond Reed suggest using Miro board. Link to AIM Miro -

5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
  • AOB
  • Summer holidays

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)



  • Agreed schedule: starting July 21, then bi-weekly from there. Same time: 9:00 - 10:00 am Pacific, using US daylight saving time.

Action Items

  • Wenjing Chu Set up calendar as agreed. Push out calendar invite to attendees. Publish it in the ToIP community calendar.
  • Wenjing Chu Create a shared Google Slide deck for the study phase of discussions.

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