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Main Goal of this Meeting

Clarify the relationship of terms wikis to published glossaries; decide on our next steps to implement terms wikis.

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
5 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members:
10 minsGlossary Activity Update
  • Rieks is seeking feedback on the eSSIF-Lab concept behind the term Trust.
    • Scott Perry has provided comments that Rieks has incorporated.
  • The Governance Stack WG and other volunteers working on the Design Principles for the ToIP Stack are also working on "trust principles".
  • The Sovrin Governance Framework Working Group is evaluating how it will evolved the Sovrin Glossary.
  • Should we start doing more work on "mental models" such as the formal models that eSSIF-Labs has defined (e.g., the Parties, Actors and Actions model)?
    • Drummond asked Rieks how many of these mental models he expects that the ToIP universe may end out needing.
    • Rieks' answer was: "as many as turn out to be needed". It's not the number of them, it is the quality of each of the models.
    • They tend to overlap with each other to some extent.
    • In Rieks' view, a mental model should represent "doing the hard work so the rest becomes easy". So a very good mental model is hard work, but it will make use of the terms much easier.
    • Drummond's guess was that it would end out being roughly a dozen of these core mental models.
    • Rieks' suggested that a Mental Model Task Force should start with a charter. It should reflect the needs of the different potential stakeholder groups. If we have two or three such stakeholders, that would help us draft a charter.
    • ACTION: Drummond Reed and Rieks Joosten to get the necessary feedback to decide about chartering this Task Force and their input into this charter.
5 minsNew ToIP website and approved deliverablesRieks Joosten
  • From Slack: "The TOIP Communications Committee is working on a website that will start with blog posts about approved WG/TF deliverables, and requests to inform them about their existence (name, location, some other stuff)."
  • Do we think we have actual deliverables, and thus an answer for the Communications Committee?
5 minsCTWG Draft DeliverablesDaniel Hardman
  • Do we need to formally approve any Draft Deliverables from the CTWG per the LF JDF process?
20 minsClarify the relationship of terms wikis to published glossariesDrummond Reed
  • See diagram #1 below
  • Is each version of a glossary published in the same repo as its "home" terms wiki?
    • It's an option, but not a requirement.
    • Rieks Joosten there could be a default glossary, which would contain all and only the terms defined in the terms wiki.
  • Is each version of a glossary a snapshot of the terms from an arbitrary # of terms wikis?
  • Does the license for each term "follow the term" into the glossaries it may be included in?
    • Daniel Hardman clarified that a term cannot be copyrighted, but the definition can.
    • The terms template includes sourcing for the definition.
    • If you are sourcing from a source that has a license that the terms wiki tool recognizes, then that license will be cited.
  • Can an author permalink to a particular definition of a term in a particular glossary?
    • Does that remain true even if there are multiple definitions of that term (from multiple terms wikis) in the same glossary?
    • Daniel Hardman is thinking of two types of permalinks:
      1. to terms in a terms wiki
      2. to terms defined in a glossary
    • The latter can be done any way the ultimate publishers wish to use.
    • The one way we want to predict is a permalink to a terms wiki itself.
    • Another option is a prescribed way to publish an HTML page based on GitHub Pages.
      • This would be a permalink such as ______________
    • Rieks Joosten added that it is up to the author of the paper to decide how to format its references.
      • In most cases, he believes authors will want static links to glossaries that are incorporated into the paper itself.
      • Exploring other definitions of the same term is interesting but secondary.
  • ACTION: Drummond Reed to revise Diagram #1 to include "Glossary E" with no underlying terms wiki.
  • Daniel Hardman clarified that a party can create a glossary without having to maintain their own terms wiki.
    • The governing party can select terms from any set of terms wikis. The glossary can be published wherever it is needed. It could be included inside another document (such as a spec.)
  • DECISION: The term for the party governing a terms wiki is _________
  • Nicky Hickman observed that if a governing party adopts a mental model, it becomes a key part of the definition. 
    • Drummond Reed agreed and posed some questions about how terms reference mental models. Are they just linked from their definitions in a terms wiki to a document that explains the mental model?
    • Rieks Joosten agreed, and pointed out that a term may be associated with more than one mental model.
    • As for where the mental models live, Rieks suggested that the mental models could live in the corpus similar to a concept would live in the model. These would be similar to including example files in the corpus. The corpus essentially can contain anything that's high enough quality to be reusable in the context of terminology.
    • DECISION: mental models in corpus
10 minsNext steps with terms wikisChairs
  • What remains to take terms wikis fully into "production" for ToIP Working Groups (and others who may want to start using them)?
    • Daniel Hardman suggested the first step is deciding if we're ready to start telling different governing parties.
    • First we should decide what additional documentation is needed.
    • A second suggestion is a "training video" to show how terms wikis work.
    • Rieks Joosten added that if we are going to produce these kinds of deliverables, then it would be ideal to have references to our own terms wiki about CTWG terminology.
    • ACTION: Rieks Joosten and Drummond Reed to propose the CTWG deliverable as a glossary.
    • DECISION: A Draft Deliverable of the CTWG is
      • a user manual of
        • how a WG/TF (or other party) can create and maintain its required terminology, and produce a glossary of the terms it maintains (in its terms wiki)
        • how a WG/TF (or other party) can create a deliverable (whitepaper, website, ...), produce a glossary of the terms needed within that scope, and make the deliverable actually use it.
5 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

Diagram #1 (from Drummond Reed for the discussion about the relationship of terms wiki and glossaries)

Decisions

  • Sample Decision Item

Action Items

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