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Meeting Objective: Reviewing Survey and agreeing analysis approach


Attendees: Nicky Hickman Andy Woodruff Alta Nel Andrew Slack 

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 mins
  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Agenda review
Andrew
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • Join ToIP if not already a member
  • Consent to meeting recording?
10 minsUpdatesAndrew
  • The search for new chairs 
  • OICD video and blog post post
  • 40 minsSurvey Review & Agree AnalysisAll

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OY6iLXmiyWOLPIbP3WP6_Xuu9weop9MKDFcdRczBOwo/edit

    Andy Woodruff  joined ToIP in the Autumn, and has joined a few TSWG meetings, interested in stepping up to co-chair this group as part of ToIP solution.  Currently working as a project manager and working in Wisconsin.

    Andrew Slack commented aim to build the group out and encourage anyone who's a human to join with multiple backgrounds.   All about tech impact on humans.

    Andrew Slack a solution designer at SICPA providing solutions for governments, banks etc  Andrew's role to rdesign solutions that are innovative and make the best of new tech.  Been chair for a while, but due to time constraints need to step back.  Current focus is Wallet Survey, for Interaction Patterns TF.

    Alta Nel based in Johanesburg South Africa, Interface Designer working on a number of ID projects over last few years and now in a crypto project.

    Andy Woodruff drawn to HXWG, tech background with engineering roles transitioned to PM, passionate about digital privacy, found SSI ecosystem through Atala Prism programme, then recognised the wider community /ecosystem.   Alta Nel also working w/Atala (see FIY: https://atalaprism.io/#start-journey).  Andy Woodruff a fan of tech but only if people can use it, so interested in making tech work better for people.

    Andrew Slack many in the community working on this, to unlock trustworthy benefits of the tech, for widespread adoption to the benefit of humans.


    • OICD video and blog post post

    Wiki page: 7. Using a Human Identity Framework to solve digital trust problems, 7th December 2023

    • Narrative Agency not Edge Agency in harms framework
    • Persona not positioning to accommodate healthy multiple identities and in fact conflicting identities, 
    • Upsides & counter-measures for identity weaponization

    Action Nicky Hickman to complete

    40 minsSurvey Review & Agree AnalysisAll
    1. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OY6iLXmiyWOLPIbP3WP6_Xuu9weop9MKDFcdRczBOwo/edit

      Andrew Slack ran through local AI system, didn't provide great analysis / response - main insights

      Main User challenges :

      • lack of control and transparency (visibility )
      • reliability issues (not working)
      • silo'd nature of wallets ie different wallets for different functions - desire for more universal wallets.
      • lack of privacy lack of understanding about what was shared and how 

      quotes:

      • frustration around complexity
      • impenetrable legal jargon
      • understanding access is one of the main issues

      problems with the tool for this task, but interesting to see what the machine says, not necessarily an accurate analysis of the survey results.

      Andy Woodruff commented that AI tools need using to evaluate utility and reliability of GAI analysis

      Andrew Slack first time using this with a dataset, can't do 'what are the main challenges raised with certain demographics', no sanity checking so far.  

      Alta Nel we anticipated that more orgs would respond instead of majority end-users

      Andrew Slack also suggested maybe the reason for this was concerns / lack of confidence about answering on behalf of an organisation.

      Research Analysis against objectives


      1. Ensure TF deliverables meet needs of ToIP members for maximum business value
      2. Understand key needs/ issues for both organizations and end-users
      3. Gather input and content for TF deliverables

      1: TF Deliverables

      Image Added

      Global research requirements: need to consult widely to ensure capture the needs from across the world 

      Needed (Alta Nel ), challenging to do well! (Andrew Slack ).

      Andrew Slack Repository of resources second priority, and this could be lower hanging fruit, curating examples of existing work, already had this at start with more demo's of their work

      Library Alta Nel for solving interaction challenges  https://mobbin.com/browse/android/apps, focused on interface but also includes some flows note there is a paywall.  

      Andrew Slack not come across something similar in wallet space, meets needs from TF to create understanding of the common patterns across all wallets, what's working and what isn't and having a reference and a place.  This is a very tangible deliverable, could include rationale for choosing to do in a certain way for their context.

      3rd - guiding best practices - ties in well with 2 above 

      4th - component library / UI kit - advise pushing back on this, having best practices in a format where they can implement those best practices - a kind of copy / paste culture is what perhaps leads to in appropriate use, Alta Nel also commented that this was constantly changing, and big investment to keep up to date.

      Nicky Hickman commented that top 3 priorities are seeded by the survey, with consumer research and offers for other survey data to address 1. and also companies offering their UX to contribute to a repository (2).

      Alta Nel to take lead on repository

      Andrew Slack commented that it could also be on ToIP website and potentially draw traffic

      Alta Nel commented on speed of developments in wallets, websites are great, wallets all look similar. dreadful landing pages with no call to action.

    CSV shared with Erika Darling 
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    1. 22 Jan

    IPTF meeting
    1. - Survey

    closed  
    1. closed  after promotion with Linux Foundation and other extensions

      25 Jan IP TF meeting Initial Analysis Org and Consumer - Publish initial Analysis in ToIP Community <--- WE ARE HERE

      Decision taken to keep open survey longer than initially planned. Behind ~1 week.

      1 Feb IP TF meeting Final Analysis Org & Consumer - begin feedback write-up including blog?

      8 Feb HXWG meeting review feedback write-up including blog

      22 Feb IP TF meeting finalise write-up & blog

      Questions:

      Need to co-ordinate follow ups with those that left details and comments.
      Suggest we try to do this before the analysis write up?

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    Nuo5 minsAOBAndrew

    Actions:

    Nicky to add as CSV file and share link, explore data studio

    All to review

    Write up answer Q1 TF deliverables - Andrew Slack 


    2024-01-11 IP TF Meeting

    17.00 UTC = 09:00 PDT = 18:00 CEST

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