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2022-10-13 BGBU APAC TF Meeting

6.00 UTC = 23:00 PT = 8:00 CET = 11:30 IST = 16:00 Melbourne = 13:00 Thailand Zoom Meeting Link  https://zoom.us/j/95121109567?pwd=UFBrWU5PcC9RZS9UaFg1UG81WGZZdz09  Meeting ID: 951 2110 9567 Passcode: 082179

MEETING RECORDING  

Notes from the APAC Meeting are recorded in the Table below in green text

Attendees: Nicky Hickman Pyrou Chung

2022-10-10  SSI HARMS BGBU TF USA/EU TF Meeting

18.00 UTC = 11:00 PT = 14.00 ET = 20:00 CET = 23:30 IST      Zoom Meeting Link https://zoom.us/j/97159895478?pwd=emFjbU8xdWs0dE5iaE0zeDVZREFYQT09 

Meeting Recording to come.

Attendees: :Nicky Hickman ; Judith Fleenor 

Agenda

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 min

Welcome & antitrust notice

Agenda review

Nicky

Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in  this activity beyond an observer role.

10minsIntro's & UpdatesNicky
40minsRevised PaperNicky

The 0.2 version is here 

Discussed presenting for internal ToIP review on 19th October. 

Nicky to finish by Monday.

2022-09-29 BGBU APAC TF Meeting

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Notes from the APAC Meeting are recorded in the Table below in green text

Attendees:  Nicky Hickman - meeting finished at 20 past due to no other attendees!

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Meeting Recording to come.

Attendees: : 

Agenda

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 min

Welcome & antitrust notice

Agenda review

Nicky

Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in  this activity beyond an observer role.

10minsNew intro's & updates

Turing Institute Trustworthy Identities Conference - Decentralization & Harms a constant strand, 

25 minsNew ArcNicky

Considering feedback and comments on the current drat of the white paper - suggested new arc/perspective as an alternative to 'ssi harms'

  • We spend all our time considering benefits of SSI we need now to look from another vantage point, the dark side of the moon if you will.  

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Actually the far side of the moon is not dark at all, but it is different from the near side. See The far side of the Moon, photographed by Apollo 16 in 1972. It is much more crater-ridden than the near side of the Moon. Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_side_of_the_Moon.  Not all of the far side of the moon is invisible from earth due to a phenomenon known as libration "In lunar astronomy, libration is the wagging or wavering of the Moon perceived by Earth-bound observers and caused by changes in their perspective. It permits an observer to see slightly different hemispheres of the surface at different times. It is similar in both cause and effect to the changes in the Moon's apparent size due to changes in distance. "

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This paper is like the Apollo 8 astronauts who were the first humans to see the far side in person when they orbited the Moon in 1968.  We are just mapping that side of digital identity which we all know is there and contributing to opening up debate and developing robust legal, technical, human experience and governance mechanisms for addressing this problem. e.g. https://privacyinternational.org/advocacy/4945/letter-global-csos-world-bank "We, the undersigned civil society organizations and individuals, urge the World Bank and other international organizations to take immediate steps to cease activities that promote harmful models of digital identification systems (digital ID). "

  • Then PEST model of harms with SSI mitigations & potential new harms or exacerbations
  • Then framework for understanding harms in digital trust ecosystems
  • Potential short/medium long-term activities is an Appendix as a starting point for discussions with other WGs in ToIP and wider digital ID community
  • Then Conclusions:
    1. budget attention and resources at every level 
    2. practical do tomorrow steps
      1. examining from the outside and considering the known harms of digital ID systems, include known harms in a risk assessment
      2. people matter - talk about ethics beyond 'value statements' or principles, test the HX not just of customers but also of team members and wider stakeholder communities. 
  • Call to action:
    • x-industry harms awareness, transparency and mitigations  - like 'fraud signals' ????
    • ??
  • Key Questions?
    • ???
  • Next Steps
  • Vision:  We can use this model to not just address or prevent harms, but to promote goods from digital identity systems, I guess that public goods are the antithesis of human harms
  • When technology makes ethical norms possible - just because we couldn't do something before because we had bad tech doesn't mean
  • Mitigate harms and magnify benefits
15minsPotential TitlesNicky

From discussion in HXWG

  • Neil Thomson 'online identity harms' 
  • Phil Wolff 'Can decentralization help with human harms?' 
  • Andrew Slack ‘Building towards a positive/safe/.. digital identity ecosystem’
    ‘On human/social harm challenges in digital identity ecosystems’
    ‘Overcoming human/social harm challenges in digital identity ecosystems’ Christine Martin Darrell O'Donnell  like this one
  • Separate doc = ACTIONABLE GUIDANCE FOR SSI IMPLEMENTORS & Policy Wonks!


From story Arc

Mapping the Far Side of the Moon: A new framework for understanding and mitigating the human harms of digital identity systems; ‘Overcoming the challenges of human harms from in digital identity ecosystems’

The Apollo 16 Paper: Considering human harms in digital trust ecosystem design / digital identity systems


Vision based:  

Do no harm: creating digital identity systems that serve the public good

On track for finishing 2nd draft end next week

Darrell O'Donnell and Christine Martin to do Foreward


2022-09-15 BGBU APAC TF Meeting

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