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Meeting Recording to come.

Attendees: Nicky Hickman Phil Wolff Judith Fleenor 

Agenda

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 min

Welcome & antitrust notice

Agenda review

Nicky

Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in  this activity beyond an observer role.

5minUpdates & New Intro'sNicky
45minReview paper & Work on terms

HXWG last week - review of harms model

Drummond Reed commented this paper much needed

Nicky Hickman to x-check w/drummond key questions/ issues & drivers for this paper

Judith Fleenor asked what we were working on

  • Phil Wolff Whitepaper + blog post - aim to look at what SSI does for systemic harms associated e.g. w/over vs under identification and aim is to provide tools for the community to prevent harm and consider in their work
  • Focus on product, management and engineers who want to prevent harm ie for the ToIP community
  • Not general public
  • Judith Fleenor reminded us that there is the generic

HXWG update on Weds 20th - Phil Wolff Phil to do Harms TF slide

45minReview paper & Work on termsNicky

Harms White Paper Draft  Phil Wolff 

  • use of 4/4 matrix not useful - just use headlines like ' Digital ID comes with known harms'  - remove 'known-knowns'
  • See points in Philip Sheldrake https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/digital-identity-human-matters-philip-sheldrake/
  • Qualitative differences between SSI & other ID tech?
  • No calibration or measurement of harm from implementation of SSI
  • Our definition of harm might be different from other definitions of harm e.g. variance from self-sovereignty
  • Are here unintended consequences of doing things as we normally do them for IAM e.g. WEIRD models of identity in west vs other parts of the world
  • risks of cultural imperialism through tech

Judith Fleenor commented that we needed to ensure that the white paper that enabled members to 'get stuff done', other ideas about the socio-cultural issues are a 'thing to think about'

comms of the paper would be a series of blog posts a) harms embedded and scaling of harms; b) concept of legal identity vs digital identity c) other ways of using SSI to express human identity

Phil Wolff why should I care; b) characterising the harms; c) theory of how to frame harms d) turning concern to action, e) budget e.g. for harms assessment 

Judith Fleenor considered edge communities can create new harms to current power base (ie those that are currently benefiting) - zero sum game

Nicky

There is now a terms wiki and we should use a # for SSI Harms  =  #harmtf  (see conventions)

Here is the document to start working with for ingestion Working Document HXWG Terms


5minActions & CloseNicky

2022-07-07 BGBU APAC TF Meeting

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