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6.00 UTC = 22:00 PT = 7:00 CET = 10:30 IST = 17:00 Melbourne = 13:00 Thailand Zoom Meeting Link  https://zoom.us/j/95121109567?pwd=UFBrWU5PcC9RZS9UaFg1UG81WGZZdz09  Meeting ID: 951 2110 9567 Passcode: 082179

Attendees: sankarshan Phil Wolff Jacques Bikoundou Nicky Hickman Christine Martin


Agenda

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 min
  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Agenda review
Darrell
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

10minsIntro's new members & UpdatesAll



5 minsUpdate on Actions from Previous MeetingsAll
  •  ACTION - Darrell to clone storyline format (from Drummond)
  •  ACTION - ALL to review background links (on Purpose page under Links & Files)
  •  ACTION - Persona Development
  •  ACTION - reach out to others to join or be an 'expert witness'
  •  Nicky setting up APAC call time
  •  Nicky set 2 week cadence at this time
10 mins

Discussion on items raised in Slack & APAC meeting

Nicky
  • Use of Persona: What format - storytelling not descriptions, Who?

1) Group of indigenous people - Pyrou Chung

2) 

3)

  • Name of the group - BGBU - use of word Harms
  • Risk assessment
  • Feedback from links /  discussion points?
25StoryboardDarrell

Outline Storyboard is here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KoWjJx8LMwqNHKhAs-gK1uLdDL6zniIR/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102748924597224658467&rtpof=true&sd=true


5 minsClose & AOBNicky
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2022-03-14 SSI Harms TF Meeting

16.00 UTC = 8:00 PT = 17:00 CET = 20:30 IST      Zoom Meeting Link https://zoom.us/j/98564220808?pwd=TlVHMDB2eHJGMlJHM2FnZVl2T0F1Zz09

Attendees: sankarshan Phil Wolff Jacques Bikoundou Nicky Hickman Christine Martin

Agenda

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 min
  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Agenda review
Darrell
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

10minsIntro's new members & UpdatesAll

Name change of group to 'Balancing the Good, The Bad & The Ugly' This has been posted on linked in, at an earlier time slot, so to be resolved for next meeting cycle.

Christine Martin - work with Darrell at Continuum Loop.  EA and topic of interest.

5 minsUpdate on Actions from Previous MeetingsAll
  •  ACTION - Darrell to clone storyline format (from Drummond)
  •  ACTION - ALL to review background links (on Purpose page under Links & Files)

Observation: Sometimes the drive to design solutions for crisis situations, e.g. Ukranian Refugees can itself lead to unittended harms or consequences because of speed & emotion.

  •  ACTION - Persona Development
  •  ACTION - reach out to others to join or be an 'expert witness'
  •  Nicky setting up APAC call time
  •  Nicky set 2 week cadence at this time
10 mins

Discussion on items raised in Slack & APAC meeting

Nicky
  • Use of Persona: What format - storytelling not descriptions, Who?  John & Jo may guide us on format and structure to be story based and then qualified with folks on the ground via Pyrou and Eric.
  • Example Persona for Yoma

3) Children:  (Sankarshan) The topic of harms around minors in context of travel came about when we were noodling on the GHP Travel related recommendations. As in - whether adoption of SSI based patterns will inadvertently enable harms to be easier, higher primarily because of weak adoption of guardianship and identifier best practices. 

1) Group of indigenous people - Pyrou Chung

2) Family unit: (Phil) A family where the notions of family aren't modeled where they live or travel. A polyamorous truple with kids and the six grand-parents. (intergenerational, doesn't conform to norms of marriage, complex guardianship) - West Africa polygamous families.

See lessons from Aadhar.  Main challenge is inability to understand how the design of the system was successful or failed, also depends on adoption, enforcement, liabilities.  EG Financial crimes are better handled through stronger regulation and enforcement.

Currently a reputational issue for SSI because of misunderstandings and perceptions.

Raises common issues such as governance and its enforcement in decentralized systems and the rights/human dignity issues.

Danger is that we create an inventory of risks with mitigations, but could be counter-productive, but in long run we need to design better ways of representing living entities in digital formats.   Is there a need to uniquely identify humans, personhood.  Is it possible to do so without being political?

Must nevertheless start somewhere and narrow scope.  Use persona as test bed to check our thinking. 

3)

Start with one persona and encourage others to build their own and engage this way.  Perhaps children as easy for all to relate to and understand.

Groups to consider: Those that are biometrically impaired, 

  • Name of the group - BGBU - use of word Harms
  • Risk assessment
  • Feedback from links /  discussion points?
25StoryboardDarrell

Outline Storyboard is here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KoWjJx8LMwqNHKhAs-gK1uLdDL6zniIR/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102748924597224658467&rtpof=true&sd=true


5 minsClose & AOBNicky

2022-03-03  SSI Harms APAC TF Meeting

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