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Dir. Jordan shared his personal experience and journey by detailing that it’s important to develop technology with the understanding that it will be deployed in the human social context. He believes the core fundamental governance fundamentals of the effort. One He went on to say that one of our Core principles Principles is that we aim to create an open community with this as a Core principle. Dir. Judith Fleenor asked for feedback . Dir and Steering Member Chris Bucannan said he believes the why is the fact that when we’re talking about trust, we’re talking about knowing things and the decentralized nature of decentralized identity lends itself to horrific things potentially. If He continued further with, if we don’t have someone to say “this is good”, then we don’t have anything standing in front of efficiency. He believes we need to highlight this and advocate for this and on behalf of ToIP. 

Dir. Jordan stated that view can inform some of our communication efforts to engage the community Dir. and then Steering Member Reed said that the idea of putting human needs in the context of governance, one thing that we are known for as an org is that we’re tackling the governance half of the equation /and problem. He’s Reed mentioned he's a little concerned that there's an idea that the technology part is being driven by other orgs. We’re organizations and that we’re seeing signs within the market that there is traction. Dir Jordan said that Seperate the types of issues risk versus governance.  


WHAT are we trying to accomplish?

Dir. Jordan believes that in order to have a system that globally enables digital trust at a globe scale,  Ex. (i.e. car industry, steam/electric/open bodies/wheels, etc. for a a )  a variety of factors, there was a dominant model that was created, companies move from feature discovery to production. When this shift happens, that’s when what we’re trying to achieve. How can we as an organization, encourage the establishment, that allows us to create digital relationships on the internet that aligns with our principles. We must include tech choices and governance model choices so that when we gain adoption, we have 

We’re here to estable digitaal trust 

have to help establish digital trust.

Steering Member Dir. Buchanan said he’s glad you used appreciates the car as an example . He and he believes the ecosystem idea, he likes to compare us to the NTSB National Traffic Safety Bureau, “they don’t make better cars, but they make cars better”

Dir. Jordan, proposed the question, who are the orgs organizations we need to bring into the conversation? Within He went on to say that within various industries. We , we want this to be adopted by and large bc because we believe the model is better for our citizens because they can conduct their data with easy and safety.  Dir. ReedSteering Committee member Reed said, I would like to drill into some implications of what the “dominant design” strategy means for the ToIP stack.

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The interview with Mike Brock, head of the TBD division of Block (new name for Square) is well worth listening to (even though it’s an hour and 20 mins long): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z24inNueCe4 

Dir. Steering Committee member Kudra agrees with Dir. Jordan, but believes we .

Steering Committee member Wenjing mentioned the Dir. Wenjing the reason he joined toipToIP, is that existing technology has limitations from a technical POV. point of view. He said that a decentralized pov perspective is more efficient . Without and that without a new system, future applications will hit the limitlimitations. He continued that If you look at financials, technology solutions can make that better. Digital domain will push privacy issues to a stronger position as a larger problem from the whole. Big players may not publicly say it, but we’re seeing it. What we’re working has technical stack but more importantly where a governance play into that. Great from migration and adoption POVpoint of view. 

Steering Committee member McCown mentioned an article by Andrew Tananbaum is Dir. McCown andrew tananbalm is that the best thing about standards is there’s so many to choose from. The world knows there needs to be decentralized identity and they need to be lead. There are a number of standards that fall under the toip stack. One is that ppl really want security with interoperability, illustrating how those standards can fit together is one of our strengths bc we’re superimposed over it all. The other thing is that larger companies will say they’re intestsed in the technology and that it’s going to stand the test of time. He’s also observed that jack dorsey started an effort that he’s written a white paper about moving finances around. It builds on verifiable credentials and steve will post the link in chat. We need to put into a framework that companies can adopt, but we also have large players that are pushing the technologies. 

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  • Design the stack within stack, have discussion of how are we tackling destructive path and when are we intentionally designing in the stack, this is how we connect with the legacy system.
    • Drummond, 1. What is the optimal design of stack? 2. What is the body of work on how to optimize/simply for integration? 
      • I would go so far as to say that “it is the power — and market value — of the trusted data ToIP Core will unlock that will drive adoption”.
    • Steve, built an interface to dropbox that would encryption and description on the way down. That allowed me to integrate with major systems with his own touch to it. I believe we need to integrate with what’s there but we need to stay focused on what the stack is and how it works. Also reach out to folks who are working with current/legacy systems and show them how they can implement
    • John, be careful of false dichotomy, decentralized vs centralized. That’s not going away and it’s not at odds with Self sovereign identity. We need to be clear about this overall
    • Bryn, Agree that ToIP stack is the ToIP stack - it is the points of integration with legacy and future stacks that is important
    • Chris, agree with Drummond, we have to start with reverence architecture 
    • Wenjing, comparison of our stack vs existing stack, we are trying to do the minimum possible to achieve our principles. We want to do the very minimum to achieve the goals, so that everyone can adopt and put work on top so that enables easy adoption. 

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