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2022-12-08 BGBU APAC TF Meeting

7.00 UTC = 23:00 PT = 8:00 CET = 11:30 IST = 16:00 Melbourne = 13:00 Thailand Zoom Meeting Link  https://zoom.us/j/95121109567?pwd=UFBrWU5PcC9RZS9UaFg1UG81WGZZdz09  Meeting ID: 951 2110 9567 Passcode: 082179

MEETING RECORDING  

Notes from the APAC Meeting are recorded in the Table below in green text

Attendees: Pyrou Chung; Nicky Hickman 

TimeItemLeadNotes
5 mins
  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Agenda review
Nicky
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.

  • Join ToIP if not already a member
    • Consent to meeting recording?
10minsIntro's & UpdatesNicky

Update on Wallet TF - New Wallet Interactions & Patterns TF to work on patterns of design for wallets, aligns with Open Wallet Foundation (A Linux Foundation Project).

Judith Fleenor has started recruiting, Accenture, Trinsic - needs to work for them as well.  Alta Nel

Rimma Perelmuter - Trust in Tech consultancy, focused on human centred design and trust that works for the digital economy.  

20minsHarms TF update & next steps discussionNicky

Permanent Link to Harms Paper

IIW Session Notes: 

Elisa Trevino is putting it on github

Terms Wiki is done but - Glossary is not updating 

Judith Fleenor - We need to make sure that anyone who comments into the Public Review Process, then must join ToIP.  Could be able to do so through gdocs as this is a paper not a specification. 

Can do on Github or gdocs.

Phil Wolff    Blog post missing contributors, call to action. Name on acknowledgements. Nicky Hickman to update

Pyrou Chung - key is the so what question?  Different perspective from people's perspective.  EG school identity system for children - case study - how could we use the paper to structure and apply.  How do you apply this framework to assist in improving their digital identity system - Nicky Hickman to do cheat sheet, practical guidance, then apply to school.  International school in Thailand, have multiple jurisdictional requirements. Legal advice is they comply, but their rights are not respected especially for non-thai students.

Technical view?  Consent process but no data policy? Legal complications  pre/post-covid.  Their policy is not compliant with basic principles of privacy, failure consent = no school access.  Pyrou wrote to the principle and asked the data to be removed and find a way for her son to access the school.  Confusing issues:  security, access control, attendance.  Most of issues are not technical but are knowledge gaps, overlaps in user data for different and overlapping purposes. What is it used for?  ie Purpose?

Is public task applicable?  In a private school public task is not applicable.

Main issue is probably knowledge gaps - concerns about digital security among other parents, but most are unlikely to speak up.  Especially Chinese, they are fleeing oppressive regime, so they devise work-around's - jump the gate!  What are the protocols for intruder?  If indeed it is for security.  Biometric system.  

Thai government requires school to share the data with them for 'national security purposes' - risk for many who are in Thailand as they are at risk if identified.  Diaspora from all over the world.  Visa can be revoked, school can be implicated in this.

Next Steps:

January All Members Meeting - presentation open to others.  Special Topic.

X-pollination for Q1 - How can we work with you. inside ToIP

Phil Wolff outreach beyond ToIP and convening, still need some form of ongoing community effort.

Judith Fleenor must come from the WG., potential for SIG.

Judith Fleenor consider outreach to other identity communities

When is public review over?  30-60 days after the January All Members Meeting.  

BLOG - How and why should my company step up?

Next communications committee meeting is next Friday 9th December - approvals can be done via email.   

  • Implementation Guide & Technical Requirements; Cheat sheet and case study with Pyrou

The following must be sent to HXWG channel, could step out of the acknowledgements for those named in blog post. (Nicky Hickman )

Nicky Hickman sort out glossary, also set up the document for comment in g-docs for non-github route.

20mins2023 objectives Kalin

meeting cadence & timing, APAC inclusion.  Pyrou would like to continue to contribute to the community, Nicky Hickman to poll the APAC members to find an alternative time.

HX focus on Wallet TF

Business Scenarios workshop?

5minsAOB

2022-11-24 BGBU APAC TF Meeting

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