Update from IIW.  Here are the notes that Neil Thomson took in the session that he and Darrell O'Donnell ran at recent IIW 35

Darrell brought up a series of topcis, new to topic, about 20 people including some heavy hitters, many will be looing at the notes and as an 'unoffical steal'!  No big gaps, turning minds to blocking or mitigating.  How do we make it easy for people to make the right choices.?  What kind of message do we want to send to technical thinking.  Receptive overall to incorporating thinking but not much certainty as to what that looks like at that point.  Need to make it clear to policy makers, but you cannot hope that the tech will solve, the tech alone cannot overcome the harms. 

Phil Wolff concerned that there is a gap between very technical principled idea of how this should work and everything that happens downstream. Separated by time, jurisidiction, etc, very difficult to imagine that this has any kind of negative externality.  Not obvious, and if they do see it why is it my concern vs others' concern

Neil Thomson commented that there is definitely a tension to make it usable but at what point do you want to protect the tech that is useful without constraining the tech itself.

Phil Wolff suggested a list of harms and countermeasures that is very specific as an appendix.  Christine Martin suggested a good idea.

Neil Thomson suggested a companion document with existing mitigations and other suggestions.  Very precise definition of harms.

Phil Wolff commented that first had to get community buy in to the fact of negative externalities, then we are inviting others to participate in harms work, quantifying risk and growing knowledge.  Processes fro quantifying risk and being accountable need to include human harms.  Not walk through the architecture, but an agreement that this is a necessary process.  Concensus that there is a problem is the call to action from this paper.

Neil Thomson consensus from Canada is also starting on things like filtering for those under 18 years.

follow up at next IIW requested.  

Blog for development is here:  Phil also has written Negative Externalities and will add to blog - this is an excellent approach No.1 = Houston we have a problem!

Phil Wolff has already added some things, and Pyrou Chung has offered to contribute.

Nicky Hickman to outline checklist document

Nicky wanted to publicly acknowledge Phil Wolff 's enormous contribution to this paper, would not have happened without him.

Target Monday for publication date to accommodate Thanksgiving. 

Nicky to coordinate with Judith to arrange open event - for inclusion in blog post for call to action.  Join us - specific topic to review harms and strategies together and figure out next steps as an organisation/ community.