Attendees

Agenda Items

Time ItemWho
2 minWelcome & Antitrust Policy NoticeTrev

Review and reconciliation with the work done by Paper Credentials Drafting GroupEveryone
1 minWrap upBrent 

Notes

  • Did the IP and antitrust announcement.
  • David is here today from the Paper Creds drafting groups.
  • David said the plan is to take a W3C VC, signed as specified, with payload as specified, and encode it to a QR code.
  • They expect that this should work with BBS+.
  • Obviously, a picture or biometric would cause issues with the size. They are trying to keep everything under 500 bytes.
  • They have a policy that some data may be cached, and with the QR code, you should have everything needed to verify the credential.
  • Once a QR code is written, that specific code can't be updated. So, we need to make sure we have all the necessary information.
  • They are expecting a signed JSON-LD payload.
  • Brent brought up that the signature scheme that is being suggested is a "two-part" signature. We had a discussion regarding how this might be encoded into QR code form.
  • Is Paper Creds differentiating between paper-based credentials and paper-based passes? We had a discussion on this subject. Paper Creds is expecting that what is encoded will be in a final, usable form.
  • Drummond is planning on updating the credential/pass "swimlane" diagrams. There's another possible path that came from a recent discussion with IATA. We discussed these diagrams.
  • David noted that paper is probably going to be the most common use case.
  • We had a discussion regarding the corrolatablity of paper credentials. A key point here is that there's a plethora of potential verifiers.
  • Even printing out a whole stack of passes, there's still sufficient information to create correlation. Verifiable digital passes also likely have this issue, even with the other anti-correlation techniques available only to digital.
  • We had a short discussion on the EU COVID-19 Certificate.
  • We had a discussion regarding the verified presentation. This can be simple or a multi-step protocol.
  • Raw data should target being no larger than 1500 bytes.
  • Brent believes that there's no required verifier binding in the presentation.
  • We had a discussion regarding how the signature scheme works with BBS+ with link secrets (ZKP & CL).

Chat Log

00:25:20	Trev Harmon:	Link to "review copy" to what Drummond is showing:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1OGWA5bMNFGn3UQlJmb0X0pAxsJc07WyUN4c4HtTHKx0/edit#slide=id.gd6968dcb86_0_70
00:31:57	Trev Harmon:	As a side note, the newest amendments to what the EU is doing has renamed the "Digital Green Certificate" to the "EU COVID-19 Certificate".
00:44:14	Drummond Reed:	https://identity.foundation/presentation-exchange/spec/v1.0.0/
00:58:54	Nuttawut Kongsuwan:	https://mattrglobal.github.io/bbs-signatures-spec/
00:59:05	Drummond Reed:	Thanks
00:59:16	Nuttawut Kongsuwan:	^^^ BBS+ doc by MATTR
01:05:17	Drummond Reed:	I have to run now, but fantastic conversation. It was very badly needed. I recommend to do another call once both groups have their revised drafts.


Action Items

  1. Next meeting is Friday (10:00 EDT).