Weds 5th Apr - 07.00 UTC =23:00 PT = 13.30 IST = 18:00 Melbourne = 14:00 Bangkok = 17:00 Singapore = 18:00 Seoul 

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Meeting Recording APAC Call

Thursday 6th Apr - 17.00 UTC = 09:00 PT = 12.00 ET =18:00 CEST = 21:30 IST

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Meeting Recording USA / EU Call

Main Goal of this meeting:  Finalise Harms; Progress Interaction patterns

Attendees APAC: sankarshan Nicky Hickman 

Attendees USA/EU: Nicky Hickman Alta Nel, Ryan Koble Andrew Slack Bentley Farrington 


TimeItemLeadNotes
5 mins

  • Welcome & antitrust notice

  • Agenda review

Andrew

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10 minsIntro's & UpdatesAndrew
  • APAC calls moving forward - encourage moving to EFWG.


  • Harms Paper - end of review period - no requested changes, Nicky to put note out to Harms group for final edits / changes. 
    • sankarshan commented that the debate on trust is very live with AI and trust deficit problems.  EG with AI & Metaverse TF.  So timely - e.g. w/Trust Registry.  How to make good choices and to think about harms.
    • biometrics / convenience and security perceptions - leading to take off in relation to binding for ID's.
    • Nicky Hickman short summary - magnificent 7 / practical steps Andrew Slack to review and then publicise together with finalised paper.
    • Nicky Hickman to follow up with Judith and finalise publication together with cheat sheet.
  • V1.1 has corrected / revised glossary and is in g-drive - Nicky Hickman to arrange w/ Judith Fleenor 

sankarshan EU Digital Identity Unconference coming up - IIW for Europe

Matthieu Gaude - Northern Block - perhaps promote the harms paper more widely.

Nicky Hickman to work with other ToIP groups to ensure that we make the most of moving forward with harms.

sankarshan need to actually think about paper and understand first before leaping to implementation.  So we are asking folks not to move fast and break things, but to go more carefully.  Such pressure to ship product, rush to implement is artificial.  Difficult problems to solve, but costly to get wrong. EG real-names on the internet, sounds like a good idea, but then they think it through.

sankarshan this year = new use cases & consumer-grade products.  Tipping point for adoption.  Technical magic in the wallet is not enough, the key is in workflow and interactions.

Andrew Slack glad to get this finalised.


40 minsInteraction PatternsAndrew

Introduction to interaction pattern work so far:

In our first session, Alta did a walk through of the wallet she's working on with different screens & different interactions occurring withing the application, good starting point.  Helped us define what an 'interaction pattern was' and where the unique flows might differ from those we had worked with, e.g. using a different metaphor to describe conceptual models. 

Now have structure to the way we are thinking about flows, and doing the mapping exercise.  Trying to break down categories of interactions. 

  • Wallet ‘walk through’
  • Assumptions we are making to do this work
  • What 'modifiers' have we identified that impact interactions
  • A working pattern template
  • Categories and tasks we want to focus on for archetypal flow
  • Proposal for a layered model for deconstructing our wallet observations.
  • Started on archetypal tasks

All on this Miro Board: 
https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPeRJFKg=/?moveToWidget=3458764549616002274&cot=14

please feel free to add/edit

sankarshan what are the key questions we're trying to answer? also following OWF asynchronously.

Next call in 2 weeks, walk through scenarios.


5 minsAOB & ActionsAndrew

Todo: Andrew to update HXWG wiki to reflect new focus on Interaction TaskForce

Todo: Andrew to review Magnificent 7

Todo: Nicky to copy over lifecycle

Todo: all to add scenarios, goal of actors, relationships, lifecycle stage, type of interaction, consider agency / power, add to Miro. Enrich the board. walk through and starting point for next time. 

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