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• Welcome & Introductions
• EFWG Community Topics & Announcements
  • Carly:
    • Use case resources on ToIP EFWG google drive https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bvf-WFoj-8-Ih-IRtJr7RqBbZDCBnsuN 
    • Use case candidates are first https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYZ2ZgoJQluJk-om8XFQ64btHwDGlwdoMGjbNqfqAEM/edit 
    • Working sessions August 4 and 18. 
  • Ecosystem white paper. Comments end this week. Steering committee in August. 
    • Ecosystem whitepaper and associated presentation links:
    • https://docs.google.com/document/d/11GzlIKRsBZxsABbOvcGYOJy0UQTyn0J5MvRAQbaCu2I/edit?usp=sharing
    • https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pxYASep3pMZ9NOUoBbpAAeCzubkcUlyYmqI089qMzPI/edit?usp=sharing 
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    • Steve M's video about his use case matrix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaImLVGucaI
  • Governance Architecture Task Force - 7 September. 

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A chained credential challenge: for the airport to be able to verify not just that the pilot was credentialed but that the training provider was authorized by the CAA

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"Proof of Value" (PoC in live setting) was stalled. 

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Who takes ownership of keeping the whole thing up and running, especially in a decentralized system? 

• Q&A
  • From Nicky Hickman > I wonder how ID of the drone itself was included and the relatioships relationships between the drone and the pilot ?
  • From Carly Huitema > this chain looks like what GLEIF is addressing
  • From "Subra" (P. A. Subrahmanyam) > The chaining would be something that KERI/ACDC can address?
  • From Steven Milstein > You can look at https://www.gleif.org/en/vlei/introducing-the-verifiable-lei-vlei for a description of how GLEIF uses  Trust Chain (KERI/ACDC)
  • CAA is concerned with the quality of non-malicious pilots (malicious ones wouldn't file flight plans). 
  • Phil > How to get it out of PoC purgatory? the Agency is the one going slow; the other parties see immediate value. 
  • Nicky Hickman > revalidation cycle
  • Steven Milstein > Is it not a “Problem Worth Solving” for CAA? Maybe they are not the Customer? 
  • sankarshan > @Steven - perhaps fuzziness around economic model to sustain this given the volume of credentials issued (and forged?)
  • Nicky Hickman > maybe because as in all decentralized ecosystems - the problem is not wholly owned by them, so they don't see why they should fund it, maybe this is inherent barrier to adoption across ecosystems?
  • Phil > Does validating a sustainable business model need to be part of the technical PoC?
  • Steven Milstein > @Phil, I think so
  • Nicky Hickman > there are also policy moves on the part of the UK Gov to create a stronger need for this https://www.suasnews.com/2022/07/uk-government-gives-the-green-light-for-worlds-longest-drone-superhighway/
  • Steven Milstein > If it's a problem worth solving, then it should be a matter of Who's the Customer?
  • sankarshan > Or, how the value is exchanged in the workflow
  • Nicky Hickman > I see there are multiple customers
  • Steven Milstein > The the ecosystem is the customer
  • Nicky Hickman > yes +1 @sankarshan - the map of incentives
  • Carly Huitema > with multiple customers you may get the case of pass the buck
  • Nicky Hickman > where is the ecosystem's budget?
  • sankarshan > The ecosystem cannot be a customer or consumer. It is merely a representation (construct) of the network of stakeholders with a map of their interactions
  • Phil > Form a consortium that everyone pays into to fund the system from the private sector?
  • Carly Huitema > would the home for that be in the ecosystem's governance authority (which should contain memberships drawn from ecosystem membership?) the ecosystem's governance 
    *that = budget
  • Steven Milstein > An ecosystem can be the customer if it's solving a problem for them - like maybe the drone pilots. it could be a consortium.
  • Nicky Hickman > yes - a good example is what Bonifii did as a Credit Union Service Organisation for the CU industry with Memberpass
  • sankarshan > A consortium is a legal entity - an ecosystem is a theoretical construct.
  • Carly Huitema > the consortium would be the governance authority
  • Steven Milstein > Who's benefiting from the solution? What problem is being solved for who?
  • Carly Huitema > or would form the GA
  • sankarshan > GA = legal entity 
  • Nicky Hickman > Tykn also have a use case around drones in Thailand for agritech & tourism use cases - SSI is a great application w/drones it plays to the strengths around ID of orgs, people & things

Presentation Files

• Google slides

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