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    • Nicky Hickman > I wonder how ID of the drone itself was included and the relationships between the drone and the pilot ?
    • Carly Huitema > this chain looks like what GLEIF is addressing
    • "Subra" (P. A. Subrahmanyam) > The chaining would be something that KERI/ACDC can address?
    • Steven Milstein > You can look at https://www.gleif.org/en/vlei/introducing-the-verifiable-lei-vlei for a description of how GLEIF uses  Trust Chain (KERI/ACDC)
    • CAA is concerned with the quality of non-malicious pilots (malicious ones wouldn't file flight plans). 
    • Phil > How to get it out of PoC purgatory? the Agency is the one going slow; the other parties see immediate value. 
    • Nicky Hickman > revalidation cycle
    • Steven Milstein > Is it not a “Problem Worth Solving” for CAA? Maybe they are not the Customer? 
    • sankarshan > @Steven - perhaps fuzziness around economic model to sustain this given the volume of credentials issued (and forged?)
    • Nicky Hickman > maybe because as in all decentralized ecosystems - the problem is not wholly owned by them, so they don't see why they should fund it, maybe this is inherent barrier to adoption across ecosystems?
    • Phil > Does validating a sustainable business model need to be part of the technical PoC?
    • Steven Milstein > @Phil, I think so
    • Nicky Hickman > there are also policy moves on the part of the UK Gov to create a stronger need for this https://www.suasnews.com/2022/07/uk-government-gives-the-green-light-for-worlds-longest-drone-superhighway/
    • Steven Milstein > If it's a problem worth solving, then it should be a matter of Who's the Customer?
    • sankarshan > Or, how the value is exchanged in the workflow
    • Nicky Hickman > I see there are multiple customers
    • Steven Milstein > The the ecosystem is the customer
    • Nicky Hickman > yes +1 @sankarshan - the map of incentives
    • Carly Huitema > with multiple customers you may get the case of pass the buck
    • Nicky Hickman > where is the ecosystem's budget?
    • sankarshan > The ecosystem cannot be a customer or consumer. It is merely a representation (construct) of the network of stakeholders with a map of their interactions
    • Phil > Form a consortium that everyone pays into to fund the system from the private sector?
    • Carly Huitema > would the home for that be in the ecosystem's governance authority (which should contain memberships drawn from ecosystem membership?) the ecosystem's governance 
      *that = budget
    • Steven Milstein > An ecosystem can be the customer if it's solving a problem for them - like maybe the drone pilots. it could be a consortium.
    • Nicky Hickman > yes - a good example is what Bonifii did as a Credit Union Service Organisation for the CU industry with Memberpass
    • sankarshan > A consortium is a legal entity - an ecosystem is a theoretical construct.
    • Carly Huitema > the consortium would be the governance authority
    • Steven Milstein > Who's benefiting from the solution? What problem is being solved for who?
    • Carly Huitema > or would form the GA
    • sankarshan > GA = legal entity 
    • Nicky Hickman > Tykn also have a use case around drones in Thailand for agritech & tourism use cases - SSI is a great application w/drones it plays to the strengths around ID of orgs, people & things
    • Carly Huitema > During the talk there was discussion about chaining credentials to the source and the suggestion was to check out GLEIF: https://www.gleif.org/en/vlei/introducing-the-verifiable-lei-vlei
    • Nicky Hickman > it all comes back to the HX of employees
    • sankarshan > The missing sponsor/stakeholder would indicate a cold start issue.
    • From Steven Milstein > Why not offer a managed service?
    • sankarshan > This recording is going to be epic! @Steven - as in a hosted, plug-n-play for the stakeholders to get started with? Instead of a build/own approach?
    • Nicky Hickman  > yes - abstract the complexity but IMO needs to be a cooperative model that aims at value and safety for all members, that's why the CUSO model is appealing - there are also DAO options in terms of governance
    • Steven Milstein  > @sankarshan Yes. Subscription membership
      Many players to subscribe
    • sankarshan  > oh! about the DAO way - I am a bit circumspect if that would be very agreeable. Government businesses seem to have some tetchy feelings around DAOs
      @Steven - it is an interesting proposal. Might actually work
    • Steven Milstein  > IMO, DAO is not there yet
    • Nicky Hickman  > for sure - could blend DAO with Multi-stakeholder cooperative models to balance rights / responsibilities of different stakeholder groups
    • Steven Milstein  > @Nicky +1
    • sankarshan > we have the pull quote for this 
    • Carly Huitema > summary idea - decentralized solutions are 80% business process and 20% technology
    • Steven Milstein > It's not about the technology. It's about the opportunity. You can have decentralized governance
    • Nicky Hickman > take-out 2 - the driver is HX of on-the ground participants that most clearly demonstrates value and drives urgency for adoption
    • Nicky Hickman > take-out 3 catherders - ecosystem orchestrators are a fundamental indicator of ecosystem viability

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