Any news and updates of general interest to CTWG members

• TNO is preparing a game that is provisionally called "Concept Quest", which is a variant on "I spy with my eye...". They will be looking for guinea-pigs to play the game and provide feedback in terms of (a) all sorts of experiences and (b) concrete suggestions for improvements of the rules. They expect there will be different versions, e.g. one for people that need to learn what criteria are all about, another one for people that want a game to result in really good definitions, and perhaps another one for those that also want to create documentation around such definitions.
• Henk van Cann shared that the ACDC group has changed from Algolia as a search engine to TypeSense because the latter has a much better invoicing system. it is the only way (apart from using Google) to index an arbitrary amount of data for searching for specific terms — especially for their level of understanding.
• Drummond Reed about EIC... shared that at the European Identity Conference there was a super high level of interest in decentralized identity and in particular the eIDAS 2.0 plans. He also observed that eIDAS 2.0 is filled with hard-to-understand jargon. He believed that next year's EIC might welcome a talk about the ToIP Glossary.
• Rieks Joosten pointed out two recent blogs from Daniel Hardman that he felt were wonderful example of how to make ToIP concepts much more accessible:
  • "Sentries, Confessionals, Vaults, and Enveloes" is at https://daniel-hardman.medium.com/sentries-confessionals-vaults-and-envelopes-4a58cf4f8a5aEnvelopes
  • Big Desks , and Little People

•  ACTION: Judith Fleenor, Henk van Cann, and Andor Kesselman to develop recommendations for sustainable GitHub maintenance, including definitions of the skills and roles needed and how a ToIP GitHub Support Group should be formed and maintained.
•  ACTION: Judith Fleenor find a way to help Brian Richter and his team with the EasyCLA issue to that it does not become a blocker for the use of the TEv2 tool.
  •  Henk updated us that Andor has been working on this pull request: https://github.com/trustoverip/acdc/pull/3
  •  All the checks have passed. Someone has to accept this pull request so we can test it to see if it solves the problems.
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed to check with Andor about acceptance of this pull request https://github.com/trustoverip/acdc/pull/3. 
•  ACTION: Drummond Reed to notify Michelle Janata to cancel the 08 May 2023 CTWG meeting.

Brian Richter 
Rieks Joosten 

Rieks Joosten Drummond Reed 

One particular quote from the Zoom chat:

• Rieks Joosten : "criterion: a text that everyone can evaluate to determine whether or not something is an instance/example of a particular concept. Evaluation leads to a yes/no result."

Rieks explained that it was an experiment for TNO in several ways, so it was just a first test. A few conclusions from this first test:

• The organizers should take more control of the term(s) being chosen for discussion at the outset ("trust spanning" was too complex).
• "Trust" and "appraisability" are similarly challenging concepts.
• Such workshops seem to work differently within TNO than at ToIP — this is something the design team is currently reflecting on.
• They intend to run more experiments.
• One output is the idea for the new "Concept Concept Quest" (see announcements above).

Rieks then shared two diagrams (#1 and #2 below) to explain his latest thinking on terminology development and conceptual models.

We ran out of time for this agenda item.

ACTION: Drummond Reed to put Trust Decision Workflow Update on the agenda for the next meeting.