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  • Meeting Date
  • : ToIP Concepts and Terminology WG Bi-Weekly Meeting  10:00-11:00 PT / 17:00-18:00 UTC. 
    See the 
    ToIP Calendar for the full schedule.

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Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

TimeAgenda ItemLeadNotes
3 min
  • Start recording
  • Welcome & antitrust notice
  • Introduction of new members
  • Agenda review
Chairs
  • Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role.
  • New Members: 
5 minGeneral announcementsAll


1 minReview of previous action items
  •  Spec-Up-T, The Diff tool in the example in the main ToIP gloss, didn't work. So we'd like to demonstrate AAL today. 
    Kor Dwarshuis : we have to write a custom Diff because github can't serve us appropriately
15 minSpec-Up-T
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    The old-ToIP glossary to the new-ToIP Glossary redirect issue discussed above (it would be good to close it ASAP). Discuss giving the ToIP Glossary (current link = https://trustoverip.github.io/ctwg-main-glossary/ ) a simpler link (proposal = https://trustoverip.github.io/glossary/ ).

    Answer: CNAME configuration is possible, see more at chatGPT


    •  Discuss the status of the permalink proposal.
      The SpecUp versioning creates copies; not desirable. The latest version of the term is the permalink. With an Xref the commithash of the time of referencing is available. There should be a checkbox available what you'd like to see: latest or commit# at the time of reference.

    •  Do we have a standard procedure for:
    1. Proposing edits to existing terms in the ToIP Glossary?
    2. Proposing new terms to be included in the ToIP Glossary?
    1. Discuss what steps remain to publish an official ToIP Glossary V1 specification by the end of August.
     
  •  Discussion: what's the realistic time frame for this:

    Carly Huitema : It would be cool if we could give each term a SAID. Perform a hash of the definition sentences, and then it could also be referenced by its SAID (and verified).

    To get a SAID you need: Canonicalization, Serialization, SAID calculation


    Long discussion; Kent Bull offered to write a blog post with a step-by-step, Carly Huitema offered to test.
10 min

Term Version management and Diff tooling.

  •  How to recover from source deletion?
    Answer: we keep a local copy of Xref'ed term definitions just in case the sources we don't control are deleted.
    Sources we do control: never delete a term definition, just revoke the definition and forward to new terms that cover the concept.
15 min

Main ToIP Glossary

  •  How to cope with multiple / singular versions of terms, with/without dashes. etc TEv2 tooling?
    Rieks has put a proposal in Slack July 1 CTWG chat. Already added in draft to Terminology Governance Guide. We will discuss this.
 5 minTerminology Governance Guide

Every meeting a new aspect to discuss and decide upon. https://trustoverip.github.io/ctwg-terminology-governance-guide/

? minSpec-Up Use

Spec-Up tips & tricks As we have many specifications in flight I have been compiling some SpecUp tips & tricks

  •  ACTION: Coordinate with Darrell O'Donnell on a "cheat sheet" for Spec-Up with input from Drummond Reed and Neil Thomson
  •  ACTION: Drummond Reed to start the Spec-Up conversion process for the ToIP Technology Architecture Specification and record any key questions or issues.
2 mins
  • Review decisions/action items
  • Planning for next meeting 
Chairs

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