Meeting Date

31 Oct 2023 The TSWG holds plenary meetings once every four weeks on Wednesdays. The remaining 2023 meeting date is Nov 28 (there will be no plenary meeting in December due to the holidays).
Two meetings are held each Wednesday to accommodate global time zones:
- NA/EU Meeting: 08:00-09:00 PT / 15:00-16:00 UTC
- APAC Meeting: 18:00-19:00 PT / 01:00-02:00 UTC
See the ToIP Calendar for all meeting dates, times and logistics, including Zoom links.

Zoom Meeting Recording

NA/EU: https://zoom.us/rec/share/f4b_2DpHP_G1wl86lf554i4ZYCX8iV8U3_FukJNgTPF0vyEnLNUteoGBTeTgJWqb.9uN4X1F8xWX0yLT5
APAC: NO RECORDING (only two attendees)

(These links will be replaced with links to the recording of the meetings as soon as they are available)

Attendees

NA/EU:

APAC:

Agenda Items and Notes (including all relevant links)

Time	Agenda Item	Lead	Notes
3 min	Start recording Welcome & antitrust notice Introduction of new members Agenda review	Chairs	Antitrust Policy Notice: Attendees are reminded to adhere to the meeting agenda and not participate in activities prohibited under antitrust and competition laws. Only members of ToIP who have signed the necessary agreements are permitted to participate in this activity beyond an observer role. New Members:
8 min	General announcements	All	Updates from TSWG members of general interest to the group. The Trust Spanning Protocol, Trust Registry Protocol, did:webs, and ToIP governance were all strong topics at IIW. ToIP related sessions included: ToIP Trust Spanning Protocol for Muggles ToIP Trust Spanning Protocol Deep Dive Did:webs for Muggles Lessons Learned from the GLEIF vLEI Ecosystem Governance Framework ToIP Glossary We also gave two sessions on ToIP at the Linux Foundation Member Summit in Monterey last week: What is a Digital Trust Ecosystem? (Drummond Reed & Kyle Robinson) Defining the Protocol for Internet-Scale Digital Trust (panel discussion)
2 min	TSWG IPR Terms Changeover	Chairs	The 60 day Call for Exclusions period under the TSWG's previous IPR terms has ended. Due to the Linux Foundation Member Summit last week, the chairs need to circle with Judith to determine the formal logistics for closing the existing TSWG and opening the new one. ACTION: TSWG Co-Chairs Drummond Reed, Darrell O'Donnell, & Kevin Griffin to work with ToIP ED Judith Fleenor to manage the formal logistics for closing the existing TSWG and opening the new instance under the new IPR terms.
2 min	Review of action items from the previous meeting	Chairs	None!
25 min	Leveraging DNS in Digital Trust	Jesse Carter	Jesse will provide an overview of this new effort in IETF in which he, Jacques Latour (Deactivated) and others are driving. The IETF Internet Draft is called: Leveraging DNS in Digital Trust: Credential Exchanges and Trust Registries Leveraging DNS in Digital Trust Presentation: See screenshots #1 thru #16 below. Northern Block Blog Post: https://northernblock.io/blog/leveraging-dns-in-digital-trust-credential-exchanges-and-trust-registries/ CIRA Labs Github: https://github.com/CIRALabs/TrustyDID Presentation Link: https://github.com/CIRALabs/Presentations/blob/main/Trust%20Over%20IP%20Plenary%20Meeting%202023-10-31.pdf Q&A: Tim Bouma "Sold!" He thought this was really great work and would help very much with adoption. Darrell O'Donnell asked what the penetration of DNSSEC is today. Jesse said that, he wasn't sure, but it thought it was on the order of 20%, and that larger DNS providers/registrars were working on initiatives to provide it automatically.
20 min	Task Force Reports	TF Leads	Technology Architecture TF — Wenjing Chu Drummond Reed Example Use Cases for the ToIP Stack is largely done (just final comments cleanup). ToIP Glossary is largely ready (awaiting TEv2 tooling from the Concepts and Terminology WG to apply it to the spec). Work on the third generation ToIP stack diagram is ongoing (very active discussions in the Governance Architecture TF). Trust Registry TF — Andor Antti Kettunen Darrell O'Donnell Registry of Registries concept being explored - this may be different than the Trust Registry Protocol or just an extension. Trust Spanning Protocol TF — Drummond Reed Wenjing Chu Sam Smith Two presentations (one for Muggles and one for Wizards) were giving on the TSP at Internet Identity Workshop (see links above). Wenjing continues to make steady progress on the Working Draft. ACDC TF — Sam Smith Philip Feairheller Updates for ACDC spec revised format workflow. KERI spec is first, PRs are up and comments would be great! AI & Metaverse (AIM) Technology TF — Wenjing Chu The AIM Task Force just submitted its response to US Copyright Office’s RFC on “Artificial Intelligence and Copyright”. Here is the link if you are interested in a read. Wenjing plans to publish a blog post to make it more accessible to ToIP members. For more related discussions, please join the AIM Task Force #tswg-aim-tf Credential Exchange Protocols TF — mathieu Judith reported that the TF has put together an extensive spreadsheet of the four major protocols. They are now discussing the details and trying to extract the most important details for specific audiences. https://www.trustoverip.org/blog/2023/10/10/simplifying-the-selection-process-for-credential-issuance-and-presentation-protocols/ did:webs Task Force — Lance Byrd Philip Feairheller Markus Sabadello Kevin reported that at IIW, Markus Sabadello did a fantastic demo of did:webs, showing how it protects against attacks on the DID document. The link is https://github.com/peacekeeper/did-webs-iiw37-tutorial There is discussion going on about a universal "Whois" capability for DIDs. The TF is getting close to have a finished spec.
5 min	Review decisions/action items Planning for next meeting	Chairs

Screenshots/Diagrams (numbered for reference in notes above)

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Decisions

None

Action Items

ACTION: TSWG Co-Chairs Drummond Reed, Darrell O'Donnell, & Kevin Griffin to work with ToIP ED Judith Fleenor to manage the formal logistics for closing the existing TSWG and opening the new instance under the new IPR terms.

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